I have found that Kounellis and Arte Povera have in many ways given me an entry point into a discourse which is directly relevant to my work. This is because I do not see art as a game, as a political wing, or as a sardonically raised eyebrow. None of these things interest me personally in the least and I cannot move with them. Kiefer once said that he could only produce that which passed through him and I echo that sentiment-purely cerebral work leaves me cold and classical form is simply beyond me. So I have been really excited by Artists such as Kounellis.